Debate with Van Hale on KTKK Radio Concerning Structure and Authority of Priesthood Offices

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Jesus ChristThis is a debate with archetypal cultural Mormon, Van Hale, who illustrates the typical box- of-priest-crafted programming all such have been subjected to from their youth up in madrasas, as it were, which conditioning has massaged their minds into a level of only what I can call obstinate idiocy which at times is truly amazing.  Cultural Mormons have been traditionated by false doctrines which have arisen due to the rejection of Joseph and Brigham by the Church in Nauvoo (in the case of Joseph) and Utah (in the case of Brigham)  in the doctrines which they desired to advocate and whenever you do that, saith the Lord, the devil takes power over the mind and retards it.  The recording is of a call in to KTKK radio on the 16th of Sept, 2006 via a voip satellite connection which proved to be spotty at best, but enough of the conversation was preserved to enable the listener to follow the debate adequately, and I have taken the liberty (since the constraints of time would not allow rebuttals to be made adequately) to intersperse my here-recorded rebuttals to objections raised by Mr. Hale at the time of the actual call. (I have invited Van to respond to this with his rebuttal to me, either in writing or recording which I will post here, if I receive it.)

This recording completely exposes the sham and deception of "modern" Mormonism as it is believed and practiced today by cultural Mormons from top to bottom (who at heart believe really only in Darwinism as their religion, cloaked with the trappings of cultural Mormonism). This is similar to cultural Judaism in its obstinate hold upon this class. There are still many  humble followers of Christ, however, nevertheless they do err in many instances because of the precepts of men.

14 They wear stiff necks and high heads; yea, and because of pride, and wickedness, and abominations, and whoredoms, they have all gone astray save it be a few, who are the humble followers of Christ; nevertheless, they are led, that in many instances they do err because they are taught by the precepts of men.

(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 28:14)

Van is a cultural Mormon who believe (self-admittedly) in Darwinism.  Thus he (and the cultural Mormons, as a sect) have invented a theology--which is a certain brand of Darwinism,  which is called by them "progressive revelation" which scheme allows modern "prophets" to contradict true prophets, covenants and the testimony of men who had their blood shed to seal their testimony.


The following mp3 file is about 78megs.  I suggest using a multi-threading download manager such as "Getright" (or some other download manager)  which can be downloaded for free at (http://www.getright.com/get.html) to facilitate speed with multithreading option. Right click on the following link, and select "save as" to download with browser, or "download with Getright" if  you have it installed.

Download the file here:

http://www.artbulla/zion/Debate/Van Hale Debate Final-4.mp3

 

For more information on how and by whom the modern Church has been hijacked ("wicked priests of King Noah", rich monogamous bankers and real-estate speculators, a la William and Wilson Law in Nauvoo, with whom Joseph and John Taylor, while in hiding from US Marshals had to contend) please see the following:

    "Wicked Priests Hijack Church"



 



 



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